Talk:Threshold jewel

Legacy threshold jewels (pre 2.6)

From what I can tell, the passives-in-radius changes to threshold jewels in version 2.6.0 retroactively applied to legacy variants. This is evidenced by a legacy variant of Steel SpiritSteel Spirit
Viridian JewelRadius: Medium(7-10)% increased Projectile Damage
With at least 40 Dexterity in Radius, each Spectral Throw Projectile gains 5% increased Damage each time it HitsThe Sekhema rode to the mountain,
With her tribe, devoted and strong.
And sewed shut the mouth of nightmare,
So that it would not consume her world.Place into an allocated Jewel Socket on the Passive Skill Tree. Right click to remove from the Socket. I found in my stash tabs with With at least 40 Dexterity in Radius, each Spectral Throw Projectile gains 4% increased Damage each time it Hits. The only difference between this and the current variant is that legacy is 4% increased damage and current is 5%. —Vini (t|c) 05:01, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

Definition of threshold jewel

The query code now also fetch the jewel Inspired LearningInspired Learning
Crimson JewelRadius: SmallWith 4 Notables Allocated in Radius, When you Kill a Rare monster, you gain 1 of its Modifiers for 20 secondsIf you do not learn from a won battle
then you have already lost the war.Place into an allocated Jewel Socket on the Passive Skill Tree. Right click to remove from the Socket., PugilistPugilist
Viridian JewelRadius: Large1% increased Evasion Rating per 3 Dexterity Allocated in Radius
1% increased Claw Physical Damage per 3 Dexterity Allocated in Radius
1% increased Melee Physical Damage with Unarmed Attacks per 3 Dexterity Allocated in RadiusThe best dancers often make the best fighters.Place into an allocated Jewel Socket on the Passive Skill Tree. Right click to remove from the Socket., which they did not associate with any active skill. Should the query need to be modified to remove these two jewels? Neokowloon (talk) 00:47, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

In my opinion, the main thing is that there are some requirements for activating modifiers on jewel (Allocated in Radius).--Ruba159753 (talk) 07:12, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Then only "Inspired Learning" need a threshold to activate its mod . PugilistPugilist
Viridian JewelRadius: Large1% increased Evasion Rating per 3 Dexterity Allocated in Radius
1% increased Claw Physical Damage per 3 Dexterity Allocated in Radius
1% increased Melee Physical Damage with Unarmed Attacks per 3 Dexterity Allocated in RadiusThe best dancers often make the best fighters.Place into an allocated Jewel Socket on the Passive Skill Tree. Right click to remove from the Socket. rather similar to Anatomical KnowledgeAnatomical Knowledge
Cobalt JewelRadius: Large(6-8)% increased maximum Life
Adds 1 to Maximum Life per 3 Intelligence Allocated in RadiusOnce you understand how your body truly works
you can't help but treat it better.Place into an allocated jewel socket on the Passive Skill Tree. Right click to remove from the Socket., Eldritch KnowledgeEldritch Knowledge
Cobalt JewelRadius: Medium5% increased Chaos Damage per 10 Intelligence from Allocated Passives in Radius"True Thaumaturgy can only be learned
by the brilliant or the mad."
- Shavronne of UmbraPlace into an allocated Jewel Socket on the Passive Skill Tree. Right click to remove from the Socket., Static ElectricityStatic Electricity
Viridian JewelRadius: LargeAdds 1 maximum Lightning Damage to Attacks per 1 Dexterity Allocated in Radius
Adds 1 to 2 Lightning Damage to Attacks"Movement expends energy, but perhaps a little of that energy
can be recaptured and... reappropriated."
- Inquisitor MaligaroPlace into an allocated Jewel Socket on the Passive Skill Tree. Right click to remove from the Socket., Transcendent MindTranscendent Mind
Cobalt JewelRadius: Medium-1 Intelligence per 1 Intelligence on Allocated Passives in Radius
+3% to Damage over Time Multiplier per 10 Intelligence on Unallocated Passives in Radius
3% increased Mana Recovery Rate per 10 Intelligence on Allocated Passives in Radius
2% reduced Mana Recovery Rate per 10 Intelligence on Unallocated Passives in RadiusA keen mind sees what others do not, makes connections where others do not, and is dangerous in a way that others are not.Place into an allocated jewel socket on the Passive Skill Tree. Right click to remove from the Socket., etc. Neokowloon (talk) 19:58, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

To me it seems that neither Inspired Learning nor Pugilist fit the definition of a threshold jewel. The whole idea behind a threshold jewel is that you need to meet a threshold of attribute points in the jewel's radius to improve a specific skill. Pugilist definitely does not function that way, since there is no threshold to speak of. Inspired Learning requires a threshold of sorts, but it is not a threshold of attribute points, and it is not associated with a specific skill. —Vini (t|c) 21:10, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

So, refine the query to remove the two jewels or not? Neokowloon (talk) 04:05, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

BTW, GGG said Dark ThoughtsDark Thoughts
Cobalt JewelRadius: LargeIf at least 70 Intelligence is Allocated within the Radius, Enemies can have an additional CurseClose your eyes,
Halt your breath,
Accept your fate.Place into an allocated Jewel Socket on the Passive Skill Tree. Right click to remove from the Socket. was a threshold jewel

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1480913

Threshold Jewels are something we knew we wanted from very early in the design of the Jewel system. We even had an early version on the promotion page for The Awakening, showing a pre-beta version of a Jewel that granted +1 to the maximum number of curses you could apply to enemies.

But it seem they shifted the definition to jewel that "affect a specific skill." Neokowloon (talk) 04:47, 11 April 2020 (UTC)