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Release data of the "original" map series

I saw a lot of "original" map series map item without this parameter infobox.

First problem: base on patch note it seems there is another map series in closed beta, which all the item were wiped in version 0.10.0. The T1 Map of the original series is area level 66, thus making the line in Version 0.9.11c "Level 60 Maps can now drop from monsters in all areas of Merciless Act Two" not quite make sense (it is talking about ilvl or area level? It is still the same map item/icon? is it relvl at the start of open beta?). It is not that possible to trace all release date of the item (either map or other item in Category:Items without a release version), so would 0.10.0 be a good arbitrary point if the item seems already exist in closed beta? (evidence like mentioned in patch note)

Second problem. For the subsequent map series, should the release date parameter use the initial date that the map was introduced, or that map series? (Likes, there is no new map type for a few leagues (last one was 3.1), so we put Map of Harvest map series with |release_version = 3.11.0 or the initial date? Since Template:Item/doc and Path of Exile Wiki talk:Community portal/Archive 7#New map confirm to use initial data but new map export has changed back to splitting the release date behavior. Neokowloon (talk) 15:26, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Consistency issue with Solaris upgrade

Since these are major changes I just want to inform everyone that I created Template:Navbox Pantheon which I hope is okay, and also created all the pages for the souls eg. Soul of Solaris. However one issue has come up with Solaris:

As per our Pantheon database it says that Solaris has 3 upgrades:

• Capture Vision of Justice in Orchard Map
• Capture Eater of Souls in Core Map
• Capture Kitava, The Destroyer in Lava Lake Map

However when you check the capture souls items, there is no such soul for "Vision of Justice", instead you can only find "Captured Soul of The Gorgon", the full list can be found on the navbox:

Therefore this is a consistency issue in our database. Which one is correct? I would think "The Gorgon" because we have an actual item. Anyone has any idea how to proceed with this?

Wonderfl ^(Reply) 11:48, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Vision of Justice is in fact the boss whose soul you need to capture. If you check on poedb, it shows that Captured Soul of Vision of Justice has the same flavor text as . I'm fairly sure that this is an error on the wiki. Captured Soul of The Gorgon was changed at some point to Captured Soul of Vision of Justice, but the article wasn't properly updated. —Vini (t|c) 20:59, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

In each league the boss need to be captured will change, but the metadata id is static. In that case, move the item to the new boss and may be delete the redirect.

And Wonderfl, your template is not helpful. We already had Template:Pantheon which use data mine data. Either you change your template into cargo or you update the template each league Neokowloon (talk) 14:03, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

You call all of my contributions not helpful. I'm getting used to it by now. Wonderfl ^(Reply) 10:34, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Steps to create fated items

Hi,

I've created a section for the steps to create Death's Opus, which is a popular fated item. The admin Vinifera mentioned that I should discuss it, as it applies to all the fated items as well.

As a player, seeing "Ingredient: The Bowstring's Music, Death's Harp" in the "Item acquisition" section does not convey any useful information. If I had to redirect a friend who knew nothing about fated weapons to that section, I'm sure he would not be able to create the weapon on his own. Therefore I created the "steps" section to make it easy and accessible to all. This is the justification.

Now as for my proposal, I'm willing to create the same "Steps" section for all the fated items using the information on this page as the primary source, however the community needs to be fine with it. So what say, people, is it okay for me to do so?

Wonderfl ^(Reply) 18:13, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

We already had the prophecy article and the article already had step by step and no need to repeat in the unique item. This is the consensus of wiki editors. Neokowloon (talk) 14:05, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Filtering beastcrafting recipes does not work

I added support in Module:Bestiary for filtering using the param "q_where" but it doesn't work, see:

Aspect of the Avian can be beastcrafted onto rare equipment with an open suffix (an available suffix), using the following recipe:

Category	Description	Notes	Components
Add a Mod to a Life or Mana Flask	Adds "of Convection"	Requires Flask to have no existing Suffix	1x level 20+ Rare Any Creature
Add a Mod to a Life or Mana Flask	Adds "of Damping"	Requires Flask to have no existing Suffix	1x level 20+ Rare Any Creature
Add a Mod to a Life or Mana Flask	Adds "of Earthing"	Requires Flask to have no existing Suffix	1x level 20+ Rare Any Creature
Add a Mod to a Life or Mana Flask	Adds "of Sealing"	Requires Flask to have no existing Suffix	1x level 20+ Rare Any Creature
Add a Mod to a Life or Mana Flask	Adds "of the Antitoxin"	Requires Flask to have no existing Suffix	1x level 20+ Rare Any Creature
Add a Mod to a Life or Mana Flask	Adds "of Warding"	Requires Flask to have no existing Suffix	1x level 20+ Rare Any Creature
Add a Mod to a Utility Flask	Adds "of the Conger"	Requires Flask to have no existing Suffix	1x level 20+ Rare Any Creature
Add a Mod to a Utility Flask	Adds "of the Deer"	Requires Flask to have no existing Suffix	1x level 20+ Rare Any Creature
Add a Mod to a Utility Flask	Adds "of the Lizard"	Requires Flask to have no existing Suffix	1x level 20+ Rare Any Creature
Add a Mod to a Utility Flask	Adds "of the Skunk"	Requires Flask to have no existing Suffix	1x level 20+ Rare Any Creature
Add a Mod to a Utility Flask	Adds "of the Urchin"	Requires Flask to have no existing Suffix	1x level 20+ Rare Any Creature
Apply a Hinekora's Lock	To a Magic Item		1x Craicic Chimeral 1x Unique The Black Mórrigan
Convert this Unique Item	Into Another Random Unique Item		1x Fenumal Scorpion
Corrupt an Item	Double Corrupt a Map		1x Craicic Vassal 1x Fenumal Scorpion
Corrupt an Item	To have 30% Quality	Only works on armour and weapons	1x Craicic Vassal
Craft an Aspect Skill onto an Item	Aspect of the Avian skill		1x Saqawal, First of the Sky
Craft an Aspect Skill onto an Item	Aspect of the Cat skill		1x Farrul, First of the Plains
Craft an Aspect Skill onto an Item	Aspect of the Crab skill		1x Craiceann, First of the Deep
Craft an Aspect Skill onto an Item	Aspect of the Spider skill		1x Fenumus, First of the Night
Craft an Aspect Skill onto an Item	Level 30 Aspect of the Avian skill		1x Saqawal, First of the Sky 1x Unique The Black Mórrigan
Craft an Aspect Skill onto an Item	Level 30 Aspect of the Cat skill		1x Farrul, First of the Plains 1x Unique The Black Mórrigan
Craft an Aspect Skill onto an Item	Level 30 Aspect of the Crab skill		1x Craiceann, First of the Deep 1x Unique The Black Mórrigan
Craft an Aspect Skill onto an Item	Level 30 Aspect of the Spider skill		1x Fenumus, First of the Night 1x Unique The Black Mórrigan
Create a Rare	Talisman		1x Craicic Squid
Create a Unique	Amulet		1x Farric Chieftain
Create a Unique	Belt		1x Farric Ape
Create a Unique	Body Armour		1x Farric Ursa
Create a Unique	Boots		1x Saqawine Retch
Create a Unique	Bow		1x Farric Goliath
Create a Unique	Claw or Dagger		1x Craicic Watcher
Create a Unique	Flask		1x Farric Goatman
Create a Unique	Gloves		1x Fenumal Widow
Create a Unique	Helmet		1x Farric Gargantuan
Create a Unique	Item		1x Craicic Savage Crab
Create a Unique	Mace or Sceptre		1x Saqawine Cobra
Create a Unique	Map		1x Farric Taurus
Create a Unique	Ring		1x Farric Flame Hellion Alpha
Create a Unique	Shield or Quiver		1x Fenumal Devourer
Create a Unique	Staff		1x Fenumal Queen
Create a Unique	Sword or Axe		1x Saqawine Blood Viper
Create a Unique	Wand		1x Fenumal Scrabbler
Create an Imprint	Of a Magic Item		1x Craicic Chimeral
Create an Item	23% Quality Corrupted Gem		1x Farric Magma Hound
Create an Item	Fully-linked Six-socket Rare		1x Saqawine Vulture
Create an Item	Level 21 Corrupted Gem		1x Farric Pit Hound
Create an Item	Shaper Guardian, Elder Guardian or Conqueror Map		1x Vivid Abberarach
Create an Item	Synthesis Unique Map		1x Primal Rhex Matriarch
Create Currency Items	A Stack of 10 Random Currency		1x Saqawine Chimeral
Create Currency Items	A Stack of 2 Orbs of Binding		1x Craicic Sand Spitter 1x Craicic Shield Crab
Create Currency Items	A Stack of 3 Orbs of Horizons		1x Farric Frost Hellion Alpha 1x Farric Gargantuan
Create Currency Items	A Stack of 4 Jeweller's Orbs		1x Craicic Shield Crab
Create Currency Items	A Stack of 8 Chromatic Orbs		1x Saqawine Rhoa
Create Currency Items	Orb of Fusing		1x Craicic Sand Spitter
Gain Atlas Crafts	Gain a free use of each Map Crafting Option		1x Primal Crushclaw
Gain Atlas Crafts	Gain Five Kirac Missions	Colour of Missions based on Level of Red Beast	1x Primal Cystcaller
Modify an Item	to Have Maximum Possible Links		1x Craicic Sand Spitter 1x Unique The Black Mórrigan
Modify an Item	to Have Maximum Possible Number of Sockets		1x Craicic Shield Crab 1x Unique The Black Mórrigan
Modify Mods on an Item	Add a crafted Meta-modifier to a non-Unique Item		1x Wild Bristle Matron
Modify Mods on an Item	Add a Mod to a Crusader Item		1x Farric Goliath 1x Craicic Maw
Modify Mods on an Item	Add a Mod to a Hunter Item		1x Craicic Watcher 1x Craicic Maw
Modify Mods on an Item	Add a Mod to a Rare Map	Only works on rare maps	1x Craicic Savage Crab 1x Saqawine Cobra
Modify Mods on an Item	Add a Mod to a Redeemer Item		1x Fenumal Queen 1x Craicic Maw
Modify Mods on an Item	Add a Mod to a Shaper Item		1x Fenumal Devourer 1x Craicic Maw
Modify Mods on an Item	Add a Mod to a Warlord Item		1x Fenumal Scrabbler 1x Craicic Maw
Modify Mods on an Item	Add a Mod to an Elder Item		1x Saqawine Blood Viper 1x Craicic Maw
Modify Mods on an Item	Add a Prefix, Remove a Random Suffix	Only works on rare items	1x Farric Wolf Alpha
Modify Mods on an Item	Add a Suffix, Remove a Random Prefix	Only works on rare items	1x Farric Lynx Alpha
Modify Mods on an Item	Reroll a Watcher's Eye Modifier	Cannot reroll Maximum Life, Mana or Energy Shield modifiers	1x Wild Hellion Alpha
Open a Portal	to Craiceann's Cove		1x Craicic Spider Crab
Open a Portal	to Farrul's Den		1x Farric Tiger Alpha
Open a Portal	to Fenumus' Lair		1x Fenumal Hybrid Arachnid
Open a Portal	to Saqawal's Roost		1x Saqawine Rhex
Split an Item	Into Three Items, with Two Mods on Each Item	Does not work on Influenced or Split items	1x Fenumal Plagued Arachnid 1x Unique The Black Mórrigan
Split an Item	Into Two Items, with Half the Mods on Each Item	Does not work on Influenced or Split items	1x Fenumal Plagued Arachnid
Transform an Item	from an Amulet into a Talisman	Does not work on Influenced items	1x Farric Frost Hellion Alpha
Transform an Item	Increase level of non-Corrupted Awakened Gem by 1		1x Wild Brambleback
Transform an Item	Reroll a Synthesis Implicit Modifier		1x Vivid Vulture
Transform an Item	Reroll an Awakened Support Gem	Cannot result in Awakened Empower, Enhance or Enlighten	1x Vivid Watcher

Why doesn't it work? I used the correct column name and table name and the query looks OK.

Wonderfl ^(Reply) 07:18, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Items prices from POE Ninja

I come from the Runescape wiki which has integrated with the RS Grand Exchange to get upto date prices. This allows very complex maths that ends up being very useful. For example this section here allows us to calculate the cost of various combat boosts (called perks) because we have the pricing data.

So is it possible for us to integrate with Poe.Ninja to get current league/standard league prices for all items? I'm a programmer so I might be able to help with the development effort.

Wonderfl ^(Reply)

It's an interesting idea. I would want to be careful about how it's presented though. The prices on poe.ninja are not facts about the game; they are listing prices scraped from the public stash tab API, if I'm not mistaken. —Vini (t|c) 08:16, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

That is true, sadly there is no factual data of the prices of items. Perhaps we can restrict the usage to only certain categories of items like uniques, or skill gems or a few things like this of course excluding magic/rare weapons and things. Currency/essence/fossil/catalyst/oil/orbs prices are the most stable, and unique prices are OK if you take into account the number of links. Generally a unique will be 10c for <=4L, 1ex for 5L and 10ex for 6L. So maybe we will have to show multiple rates on the wiki (4L, 5L, 6L), or ban uniques completely. But I would like to see some prices coming up, especially for stable items listed below, preferably on the infobox of the item, and also usable in table form where players can sort by price, for example to find the cheapest fossil / essence for their crafting, is one good use. Wonderfl ^(Reply) 11:26, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

In terms of coding, we just need one coded template that can provide the price of a single item. With this alone we can manage all functionality. In RS Wiki we have:

{{Price|Metallic Fossil|2}}

which will get the price of 2 x Metallic Fossil. Later on we can support math:

{{Coins|{{Price|Metallic Fossil}}+({{Price|Dense Fossil}}*2)+{{Price|Powerful Resonator}}}}

which will get the combined prices and then format them with a "coins" icon (Coins template). Perhaps here we'll have to use Chaos orbs as the base, and dynamically switch to Exalt if the value exceeds 100 or whatever the current rate is. Wonderfl ^(Reply) 11:34, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

I'm willing to code it, if you give me literally any info on how to proceed. I can give you the table schema, and the script written in any language. But you'll have to tell me which language and where to write it, whether it will be a hosted script or written right here on the wiki in Lua. We'll have to setup a daily call to that script. Then I'll see libraries that can parse the JSON and read it into MySQL. And then finally the Price check template that will fetch a MySQL record and display the price in Chaos/Exalt. Wonderfl ^(Reply) 11:50, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

So far I have identified 13 categories of items with stable prices - Wonderfl ^(Reply) 11:52, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

On the RS Wiki they use a big fat data file stored right on the wiki as a data source for the item prices. The file is probably updated by another script on a daily basis. Its probably faster to execute than using MySQL although we can use either one... Wonderfl ^(Reply) 11:56, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

unique roll affect the price of the item and poe.ninja often fails to reflect that and usually the first page of search result is full of price fixer (which poe.ninja apparently index it) so the answer is no, it does not really help. Moreover, at league end the item worth 1c is not really the same as the price at league start. Neokowloon (talk) 13:59, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

You don't even read do you, did I ever mention any items that have a unique roll? No. I only mentioned items with fixed/stable prices already LISTED in the link click here. Honestly if you say NO to everything it appears like you don't want anything to change or improve around here. - Wonderfl ^(Reply) 15:20, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Calm down. Neokowloon brought up a very valid point. Although your idea is interesting to me from a technical perspective, I'm still unsure about whether it is really suitable for the wiki to show prices scraped from indexers. —Vini (t|c) 09:26, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Okay, then I will not pursue this further. Wonderfl ^(Reply) 10:31, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Content fork

Ok, the content fork issue need to be dealt with.

Divination card drop location in Headhunter article

The step for the PROPHECY in Death's Opus article instead of stay in The Bowstring's Music

"Duping" step of the Blueprint in Fenumal Plagued Arachnid article

List of ALL Delve node in Abyssal Depths (Delve) article, instead of possible one

And this is not the full list of not so constructive edits

Admins , User:OmegaK2, User:Illviljan, User:Vinifera7 are there any consensus that hyperlink exist in this wiki so that no need to copy the same content copy and paste everywhere? Neokowloon (talk) 07:22, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Divination card drop location in Headhunter article

The main issue with listing divination card drop locations on the Headhunter article, as they currently are, is that it might be fairly painstaking to keep up to date. Drop locations for divination cards change from time to time, don't they?

The step for the PROPHECY in Death's Opus article instead of stay in The Bowstring's Music

I'm not opposed to this at all; in fact, I like it. It makes total sense to include a step-by-step guide to obtaining Death's Opus on its own article. A similar treatment could be applied to the other articles for fated unique items, as long as we can come up with a good format.

"Duping" step of the Blueprint in Fenumal Plagued Arachnid article

I'm not sure I understand the issue here.

List of ALL Delve node in Abyssal Depths (Delve) article, instead of possible one

I don't see the problem with this one.

—Vini (t|c) 09:48, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

I'm fine with deleting the section of divination card drops of HH. I was just trying to compile a list / methods of farming HH should anyone try to farm one on their own. I wanted to add steps for Ancient orb HH farming as well but I don't know it and if its out of scope it can be left out. The other sections I feel are useful, like Vinifera said. Wonderfl ^(Reply) 10:33, 5 January 2021 (UTC)