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:I've encountered wierd ones. I suggest you take screenshots of the altar with the "always highlight" setting OFF so that the altar name doesnt show in the screenshot. Then simply add the image with the name "X Ritual Altar.png". I edit the source code of tables in order to add images there, and its pretty easy to figure out. If you cant, just add your image here and I'll pick it up and place it in the table. For alt versions, I suggest listing them seperately, as they may have different mods. I have also encountered the altars you described getting 100% div cards and 100% uniques. I've taken screenshots of the ritual loot box if that's any good. Thanks again, appreciate your work on this page. Btw can we remove the "Tier" column? I'm sure altars have no such thing internally as any altar type shows anywhere, also, how are you extracting the "tier"? Also, I've added mods to some altar types based on your screenshots, which I didn't know before. Thanks! -- [[User:Wonderfl|Wonderfl]] <sup>([[User_talk:Wonderfl|Reply]])</sup> 22:55, 28 January 2021 (UTC) | :I've encountered wierd ones. I suggest you take screenshots of the altar with the "always highlight" setting OFF so that the altar name doesnt show in the screenshot. Then simply add the image with the name "X Ritual Altar.png". I edit the source code of tables in order to add images there, and its pretty easy to figure out. If you cant, just add your image here and I'll pick it up and place it in the table. For alt versions, I suggest listing them seperately, as they may have different mods. I have also encountered the altars you described getting 100% div cards and 100% uniques. I've taken screenshots of the ritual loot box if that's any good. Thanks again, appreciate your work on this page. Btw can we remove the "Tier" column? I'm sure altars have no such thing internally as any altar type shows anywhere, also, how are you extracting the "tier"? Also, I've added mods to some altar types based on your screenshots, which I didn't know before. Thanks! -- [[User:Wonderfl|Wonderfl]] <sup>([[User_talk:Wonderfl|Reply]])</sup> 22:55, 28 January 2021 (UTC) | ||
::I don't think i've seen anything like "tiers" i just know there are skull altars, and then there are fountain altars; some of the fountain altars have the same stats as the skull altars but only give rewards of one type and change the color of the screen but I think there is no tiers, only skull and fountain altars. [[User:Chesse20|Chesse20]] ([[User talk:Chesse20|talk]]) 05:24, 29 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
:::I agree, I've removed the Tiers. Cheers! [[User:Wonderfl|Wonderfl]] <sup>([[User_talk:Wonderfl|Reply]])</sup> 10:20, 29 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
== Are Tips allowed or not? == | |||
I have added the tip ''"If you complete all of the ritual altars in the area/map and then withdraw rewards, all the possible rewards will be revealed and you will have the maximum possible Tribute to spend on the most expensive rewards"''. Illviljan removed it, saying ''"Who recommended that? Avoid opinionated sentences"''. I don't think the tip is an opinion, it is a simple fact that can be derived from the gameplay and based on common sense, you will have the ability to purchase rewards only if you save up Tribute, by completing all the altars in the map. Therefore I feel the tip is not an opinion. In that case, are tips allowed or not? I don't see why we should not help players obtain the maximum value for their time, because it ultimately makes gameplay more enjoyable and makes the wiki more useful. Does anyone have an issue with this tip, and if so, why? [[User:Wonderfl|Wonderfl]] <sup>([[User_talk:Wonderfl|Reply]])</sup> 13:37, 29 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
: I saw a tip on the [[heist]] page and it's pretty useful I have no issue with tips being left on this page [[User:Chesse20|Chesse20]] ([[User talk:Chesse20|talk]]) 23:55, 29 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
: As long as it's generally helpful, I think it's fine to include some opinionated tips here and there. However, the tip in question isn't even an opinion; it's incontrovertibly a fact. You have my blessing to add it back in. [[User:Vinifera7|Vinifera7]] ([[User talk:Vinifera7|talk]]) 03:57, 30 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
:: Haha, thanks guys, much appreciated. If you feel some tips/warnings are opinionated feel free to delete it. [[User:Wonderfl|Wonderfl]] <sup>([[User_talk:Wonderfl|Reply]])</sup> 04:23, 30 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
== Article structure == | |||
Would [[Ritual Altar]] and [[Ritual Totems]] be somehow merged into this article ? [[User:Neokowloon|Neokowloon]] ([[User talk:Neokowloon|talk]]) 09:05, 8 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
: Just a note to folks reading this - above suggestion was completed a while ago. -- [[User:AnnanFay|AnnanFay]] ([[User talk:AnnanFay|talk]]) 22:31, 18 November 2022 (UTC) | |||
== Per Ritual, when do they finish? A time limit or after all stored monsters are dead? [3.22, 9/16/23] == | |||
<s>Per Ritual, when do they finish? A time limit or after all stored monsters are dead?</s>Edit: this is stared in point 3, the combat phase ends after all monsters are defeated. The purpose of the modifiers: "%increased monsters spawned at once" and "spawn Monsters % faster" are to make rituals to be done faster. --[[User:Silverwilver|Silverwilver]] ([[User talk:Silverwilver|talk]]) 21:58, 16 September 2023 (UTC) | |||
:The Ritual end when player die or all the monster die (some rare case such as [[Sand spitter (monster type)|Sand spitter]] spawn from [[Shield crab (monster type)|Shield crab]] seems does not count.) Which this mechanic is differ from time-gated Incursion or Breach or Legion unfreeze phase. If you feel this info should be added to wiki. Feel free to do it yourself. [[User:Neokowloon|Neokowloon]] ([[User talk:Neokowloon|talk]]) 10:07, 17 September 2023 (UTC) | |||
:: Yep, this information was already in the article but I skipped over it somehow. I added the bit about it ending if the player dies. "the combat phase ends and players can loot the altar.", this probably refers to the items that drop after a ritual is completed, items I assume that the dropped from the monsters killed during the ritual. I'm not sure so I'm not keen on changing it. --[[User:Silverwilver|Silverwilver]] ([[User talk:Silverwilver|talk]]) 02:48, 9 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
== Lore == | |||
Should this page add a lore section regarding new stuff from [[Affliction league]]? [[User:Neokowloon|Neokowloon]] ([[User talk:Neokowloon|talk]]) 14:33, 25 January 2024 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 14:33, 25 January 2024
First draft
Doing my best here; feel free to add any more info on deffering and how many items each ritual has Chesse20 (talk) 05:00, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
Alternate Altars??
![](/images/thumb/1/15/SanguineAltar.png/300px-SanguineAltar.png)
Found this in game, it has the same modifiers as a violence altar, but when i used it all the rewards were divination cards; might want to keep a look out for alternate/upgraded/ whatever these altars are since they seem to have hidden modifers Chesse20 (talk) 01:38, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
Found another one, (2nd image) this one had the same name as its normal version, but once again it had only items of a specific type in it, this time being nothing but uniques.
![](/images/thumb/7/76/Fountainaltarchaos.png/300px-Fountainaltarchaos.png)
Chesse20 (talk) 05:42, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Found the Opulent Ritual altar, appears to be another one of these fountain altars, all the rewards this time are currency, which is very obvious by looking at the design of the fountain, which is flowing with coins. Don't know how to edit the new tables and add new entries in visual mode.Chesse20 (talk) 03:50, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
![](/images/thumb/d/d6/Opulent.png/300px-Opulent.png)
- I've encountered wierd ones. I suggest you take screenshots of the altar with the "always highlight" setting OFF so that the altar name doesnt show in the screenshot. Then simply add the image with the name "X Ritual Altar.png". I edit the source code of tables in order to add images there, and its pretty easy to figure out. If you cant, just add your image here and I'll pick it up and place it in the table. For alt versions, I suggest listing them seperately, as they may have different mods. I have also encountered the altars you described getting 100% div cards and 100% uniques. I've taken screenshots of the ritual loot box if that's any good. Thanks again, appreciate your work on this page. Btw can we remove the "Tier" column? I'm sure altars have no such thing internally as any altar type shows anywhere, also, how are you extracting the "tier"? Also, I've added mods to some altar types based on your screenshots, which I didn't know before. Thanks! -- Wonderfl (Reply) 22:55, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
- I don't think i've seen anything like "tiers" i just know there are skull altars, and then there are fountain altars; some of the fountain altars have the same stats as the skull altars but only give rewards of one type and change the color of the screen but I think there is no tiers, only skull and fountain altars. Chesse20 (talk) 05:24, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
Are Tips allowed or not?
I have added the tip "If you complete all of the ritual altars in the area/map and then withdraw rewards, all the possible rewards will be revealed and you will have the maximum possible Tribute to spend on the most expensive rewards". Illviljan removed it, saying "Who recommended that? Avoid opinionated sentences". I don't think the tip is an opinion, it is a simple fact that can be derived from the gameplay and based on common sense, you will have the ability to purchase rewards only if you save up Tribute, by completing all the altars in the map. Therefore I feel the tip is not an opinion. In that case, are tips allowed or not? I don't see why we should not help players obtain the maximum value for their time, because it ultimately makes gameplay more enjoyable and makes the wiki more useful. Does anyone have an issue with this tip, and if so, why? Wonderfl (Reply) 13:37, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
- I saw a tip on the heist page and it's pretty useful I have no issue with tips being left on this page Chesse20 (talk) 23:55, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
- As long as it's generally helpful, I think it's fine to include some opinionated tips here and there. However, the tip in question isn't even an opinion; it's incontrovertibly a fact. You have my blessing to add it back in. Vinifera7 (talk) 03:57, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
Article structure
Would Ritual Altar and Ritual Totems be somehow merged into this article ? Neokowloon (talk) 09:05, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
- Just a note to folks reading this - above suggestion was completed a while ago. -- AnnanFay (talk) 22:31, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
Per Ritual, when do they finish? A time limit or after all stored monsters are dead? [3.22, 9/16/23]
Per Ritual, when do they finish? A time limit or after all stored monsters are dead?Edit: this is stared in point 3, the combat phase ends after all monsters are defeated. The purpose of the modifiers: "%increased monsters spawned at once" and "spawn Monsters % faster" are to make rituals to be done faster. --Silverwilver (talk) 21:58, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
- The Ritual end when player die or all the monster die (some rare case such as Sand spitter spawn from Shield crab seems does not count.) Which this mechanic is differ from time-gated Incursion or Breach or Legion unfreeze phase. If you feel this info should be added to wiki. Feel free to do it yourself. Neokowloon (talk) 10:07, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
- Yep, this information was already in the article but I skipped over it somehow. I added the bit about it ending if the player dies. "the combat phase ends and players can loot the altar.", this probably refers to the items that drop after a ritual is completed, items I assume that the dropped from the monsters killed during the ritual. I'm not sure so I'm not keen on changing it. --Silverwilver (talk) 02:48, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
Lore
Should this page add a lore section regarding new stuff from Affliction league? Neokowloon (talk) 14:33, 25 January 2024 (UTC)