User talk:Vinifera7

Picture Not Working?

Hey, I was editing one of the pages (Solaris_Temple_Level_3) and I can't seem to get the picture to show up, I've done everything exactly the same as the other ones, it just doesn't seem to work, I was wondering if you could help me out?

Question About Icons

Thanks for the help, yeah my friend and I decided to contribute to the missing Act 3 information. We can't figure out how to get images to be locally referenced on the wiki. For example, I'm trying to put up icons for the act 3 quests, but I don't know where to upload the icons. The other icons are listed as "File:Quests_Hand.jpg". How do we do that? --Wavestrike (talk) 07:10, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

You can upload images by following the Upload File link in the sidebar. —Vinifera7 (talk) 07:16, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Need Anything?

Hey mate, you've been really active lately, and putting some great content on the site. Anything I can do to make things easier for you? Iamacyborg (talk) 19:27, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Possibly. I was thinking of what we can do to add more consistency to the skill categories. The main problem with renaming categories is that you have to individually edit each page that is part of the category. I hear that there are bots that can aid with this. Anyway, later I will post more about it in the Community Portal. —Vinifera7 (talk) 19:34, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

I'll take a look into that, I agree it's a pain in the arse in its current configuration. Give me a shout if you need anything else though. Iamacyborg (talk) 19:52, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Changes to Gem Leveling Tables

Hey, I Don't understand your changes to the for Required Int and level. Seem to be vary non-newb friendly. If someone new to the game were to see those to icons they would not know what they mean.

Please let me know the Purpose of not having Required Int and level typed out. Also seeing as there is no "Icon" for Mana cost, Damage, Etc it makes the table look tacky. Urias (talk) 00:32, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

It saves space for one thing and similar icons are used on all of the equipment tables in this wiki. You can hover your mouse over the icon to see what the icon represents. If you wish, feel free to leave feedback on the new templating. —Vinifera7 (talk) 00:39, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Ahh ok, ya sorry didnt realize it was a template. Urias (talk) 00:44, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Spammers

I've given you extra rights as requested :)

Good Catch!

Major derp on my part. Iamacyborg (talk) 19:59, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Change to your template

Hi, just letting you know I made some changes to your template today, I've put an explanation in the community portal. — Malice (talk) 21:01, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

En dash?

If we really need to use en dash for number ranges it may be better to create a template which automatically inserts one. Most people (including me) will be unable to easily type them on their keyboards so will need to copy paste from other sources. This makes me very unlikely to use them.

We already have a GemLevelTable template. This could be extended so as to envelope the entire range of values and replace all "..." and "-" with en dashs. -AnnanFay (talk) 20:24, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

I was initially going to create Template:Ndash for that purpose, but it seems silly to create a template in order to transclude a single character. The same template on Wikipedia is deprecated for that exact reason. What could be done instead is to use the html entity for an en dash, –. It seems a bit ridiculous to type seven characters instead of one single character, but it may help people realize that a different character than a hyphen is being used there. —Vinifera7 (talk) 20:37, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Gem categories

Why are you removing categories from the gem pages? If a support gem doesn't belong in Category:Support gems, then what does? All support gems should absolutely be in the support gem category. Similary, gems with multiple attribute requirements should be in both respective categories. — Malice (talk) 10:56, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

I'm following well-established standards of wiki categorization. If you place a page in category B that is a sub-category of another category A, you should not also explicitly place that page in the parent category A as well. [1] —Vinifera7 (talk) 11:01, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Furthermore, a Strength Support Gem (for example) specifically refers to a red support gem, not any support gem that has Strength requirements. You are the one who decided to change the meaning of "Strength Support Gem" without consulting other wiki editors, which is why I am changing it back to the way it was. —Vinifera7 (talk) 11:07, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

I'm not redefining the meaning of "strength support gem" :P. A strength support gem is only red because it requires strength predominantly, not the other way around. There's no reason why a page can't belong to Category:Intelligence support gems also. Why would you want to segregate based on the art, instead of the stats of the item? We don't have separate categories for "grey armour" and "brown armour". Plus you'll have to make a new category for Cold to Fire since its art is both red and blue. If you want a category with only red gems in it, then it should be called "red support gems" or whatever.

If you insist that Category:Support gems must be completely empty except for more categories, then there's no need for that category at all. Just have a Category:Gems category, with all of the gem subcategories, support and otherwise. At the very least there should be a category containing all support gems, even if it has to be called [:Category:All support gems]] or something. Categories are a great way of finding pages with a certain theme. For instance if an article is talking about cold damage, it might be useful to link to a category containing all gems (support or otherwise) that have a cold theme. This is ACTUALLY USEFUL for people looking for ways to deal cold damage, or modify their existing cold damage. Same goes for totems, or any other skill type. — Malice (talk) 11:38, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

There is of course, value in having categories containing only red/blue/green gems, since the colour of the gem determines what type of socket it can go into. But this shouldn't exclude them from being in other categories. Perhaps we need an entirely new structure. Gems are items first. They grant you skills but they are not themselves skills. That distinction is overly pedantic but nonetheless true. It's perfectly fine to have a gem page double as the skill page, and vice versa. Perhaps the categories red gems, blue gems etc. should be somewhere under the items category, while categories relating to skills and their functionality can be under the skills category. I would really like to be able to have categories for similarly functioning gems, or gems with a common theme, without having to break them up depending on whether they are red/green/support/etc. — Malice (talk) 12:03, 17 February 2013 (UTC)