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* As far as the appearance of the link: I personally think that the current look of {{tl|QuickGuide}} is a bit too strong. On the other hand, I think that the current look of {{tl|See guide}} is too weak -- it's just a hatnote that's easy to miss. I think we should aim for something in between -- something that uses an {{tl|ambox}} so it stands out, but that doesn't have a background color that stands out so much against the page.
* As far as the appearance of the link: I personally think that the current look of {{tl|QuickGuide}} is a bit too strong. On the other hand, I think that the current look of {{tl|See guide}} is too weak -- it's just a hatnote that's easy to miss. I think we should aim for something in between -- something that uses an {{tl|ambox}} so it stands out, but that doesn't have a background color that stands out so much against the page.
Thoughts? [[User:KickahaOta|KickahaOta]] ([[User talk:KickahaOta|talk]]) 16:30, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
Thoughts? [[User:KickahaOta|KickahaOta]] ([[User talk:KickahaOta|talk]]) 16:30, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
: I previously deleted {{tl|QuickGuide}} because [[User:Wonderfl]] wrote a number of "quick guides" (whatever that means) and then decided for himself that they should be given extra special prominence. There is no reason, other than self-indulgence, to display a brightly-colored notice about your guide at the top of an article, before any article content even. A link to a guide is not more important than the article itself. {{tl|QuickGuide}} should not be used in articles. It looks way too flashy and its current usage does not respect the MoS. —[[User:Vinifera7|Vini]] ([[User talk:Vinifera7|t]]|[[Special:Contributions/Vinifera7|c]]) 17:08, 7 December 2021 (UTC)


: As a starting point, I switched {{tl|See guide}} from a hatnote to an {{tl|ambox}} for better visibility -- it now has the same appearance as {{tl|guide}}. We should use the same icon and probably a similar appearance for the "link to guide" and "here's a guide" templates, whatever that icon and appearance turn out to be. [[User:KickahaOta|KickahaOta]] ([[User talk:KickahaOta|talk]]) 16:56, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
: As a starting point, I switched {{tl|See guide}} from a hatnote to an {{tl|ambox}} for better visibility -- it now has the same appearance as {{tl|guide}}. We should use the same icon and probably a similar appearance for the "link to guide" and "here's a guide" templates, whatever that icon and appearance turn out to be. [[User:KickahaOta|KickahaOta]] ([[User talk:KickahaOta|talk]]) 16:56, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Revision as of 17:09, 7 December 2021

Standardizing on a guide template

Let's have a quick discussion on how we want to link to guides. We currently have two templates for this: {{QuickGuide}} and {{See guide}}. We should pretty clearly consolidate down to one. They have pretty much the same parameters, so that should be easy. So, some thoughts:

  • On the name of the template: I don't much like calling guides "QuickGuide". Who decides whether a guide is actually "quick"? Do we need another template for guides that aren't "quick"? I'd rather just stick to "guide". Also, the template name "QuickGuide" seems like something that should be at the top of the guide itself, rather than something that refers to a guide. So overall I like the name "See guide" better.
  • As far as the appearance of the link: I personally think that the current look of {{QuickGuide}} is a bit too strong. On the other hand, I think that the current look of {{See guide}} is too weak -- it's just a hatnote that's easy to miss. I think we should aim for something in between -- something that uses an {{ambox}} so it stands out, but that doesn't have a background color that stands out so much against the page.

Thoughts? KickahaOta (talk) 16:30, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

I previously deleted {{QuickGuide}} because User:Wonderfl wrote a number of "quick guides" (whatever that means) and then decided for himself that they should be given extra special prominence. There is no reason, other than self-indulgence, to display a brightly-colored notice about your guide at the top of an article, before any article content even. A link to a guide is not more important than the article itself. {{QuickGuide}} should not be used in articles. It looks way too flashy and its current usage does not respect the MoS. —Vini (t|c) 17:08, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
As a starting point, I switched {{See guide}} from a hatnote to an {{ambox}} for better visibility -- it now has the same appearance as {{guide}}. We should use the same icon and probably a similar appearance for the "link to guide" and "here's a guide" templates, whatever that icon and appearance turn out to be. KickahaOta (talk) 16:56, 7 December 2021 (UTC)