Talk:Support gem

How exactly do Mana Cost Multipliers stack? I cannot find this anywhere on the wiki. (Yes, I know they are multiplicative. I'm just saying this should be on the wiki. Perhaps added by someone with time and better math skills than I. =P)--FaceLicker (talk) 09:09, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Yep. The questions is where exactly do we want this stuff to be displayed? Should it be linked back from every support gem page? Iamacyborg (talk) 09:57, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Need to add "Curse on Hit" to list

I noticed it's missing, but am too tired to add it right now, and won't remember in the morning Monkeyfetus (talk) 09:45, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Id syntax

How do you obtain the proper Id syntax for adding an entry to this page? Ex: {id|b|L}? Does the id tag somehow determine the color and type of gem icon shown beside each support gem listed on this page? I added a new support gem "Innervate" following the template for the others as best I could, but it showed up in the list with a white skill gem icon, instead of a colored support gem icon. Darkfyre (talk) 18:44, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

The skill needs to be added to Template:Sl, the white gem is used as a fallback when a new gem hasn't been added to the template yet. Iamacyborg (talk) 16:51, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you :) Darkfyre (talk) 18:44, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, that was a premature thank you. I went to the page you linked, but I still can't figure out how to actually add the skill to the template sl Darkfyre (talk) 18:52, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Take a look at the edit I just made to the template. now works as it should. Iamacyborg (talk) 20:35, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

"Exact Gem Mechanics" column

Recently Fhnhf added an additional column to the table that lists all of the effects of each support gem. In my opinion this makes the table really unwieldy since there's just so much text. I would think the description column is more than enough for the purposes of this table to remind the reader what each gem is. Can we agree to remove the new column? —Vini (t|c) 18:05, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

I added the new mechnics column because the basic descriptions werent enabling a quick look at multipliers such as more or increased. This necessitated clicking into each gems link to see if you could combine them for the effect you were looking for rather than a simple ctrl+f for multipliers. I think the basic description is less useful than the mechanical description for quick overview purposes.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fhnhf (talk • contribs) 21:32, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

Really, the description column wasn't much use as it was when it gives identical (and basically wrong) descriptions for say added fire damage and added cold damage. But some of the exact gem mechanics are unnecessarily detailed and wordy. I think what is needed is brief descriptions which actually say what the gem does, including using words like "more" when needed. Look at minion speed as an example:

• Current description:

Increases minions' movement speed.

• Exact:

• Minions have x% increased Movement Speed
• Minions have x% increased Attack Speed
• Minions have x% increased Cast Speed

• Should be:

Increases minions' movement, attack, and cast speed.

--Qetuth-(talk) 05:23, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

I'm all for that. —Vini (t|c) 06:27, 14 December 2015 (UTC)