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For the Uber Pinnacle version of this encounter, see The Elder (The Shaper's Realm)#Uber boss variant.
For the encounter with the Elder in Absence of Value and Meaning, see The Elder.
For other uses, see The Elder (disambiguation).
The Shaper
The Shaper
The Shaper
Level(s) 84 (Regular)
85 (Uber)
Location(s) The Shaper's Realm
Health 48 096 435
Damage 5689
ApS 1.76
Resistance(s) 50% Fire
50% Cold
50% Lightning
30% Chaos
Modifier(s) Cannot Be Fully Slowed
Cannot be stunned while stunned
Cannot be stunned for 4s after stun finished
etc.[1]
Eldritch
The Elder
The Elder
The Elder
Level(s) 84 (Regular)
85 (Uber)
Location(s) The Shaper's Realm
Health 48 096 435
Damage 6078
ApS 1.88
Resistance(s) 50% Fire
50% Cold
50% Lightning
30% Chaos
Modifier(s) Cannot Be Fully Slowed
Cannot be stunned while stunned
Cannot be stunned for 4s after stun finished
etc.[2]
Eldritch

The Elder encountered in The Shaper's Realm, also referred to as Uber Elder, is a dual boss encounter where the player fights both the Elder and the Shaper at the same time. Defeating the Uber Elder for the first time will reward the player with a Decayed VoidstoneDecayed VoidstoneTier 1-15 Maps found have 25% chance to become 1 tier higher
Tier 16 Maps Dropped in Areas have 0.4% chance to become a Tier 17 Map for each Socketed Voidstone
The Elder fed on all that gave life meaning
until it encountered an unbreakable bond.
Socket this into your Atlas to increase the Tier of all Maps.
that can be socketed into the Atlas.

The encounter has no phases, however, one of the bosses will be invulnerable, and this will alternate between the two bosses every time the player damages the vulnerable boss for 25% of his health. Zana Caeserius does not assist the player during this fight, unlike both the Elder and the Shaper encounters where she is present and provides various defensive abilities.

The Uber Elder can drop one of the most valuable items in the game, a 3-mod Watcher's EyeWatcher's Eye
Prismatic Jewel
Limited to: 1(4-6)% increased maximum Energy Shield
(4-6)% increased maximum Life
(4-6)% increased maximum Mana
<Two or Three random aura modifiers>
One by one, they stood their ground against a creature
they had no hope of understanding, let alone defeating,
and one by one, they became a part of it.
Place into an allocated Jewel Socket on the Passive Skill Tree. Right click to remove from the Socket.
with highly variable value depending on the random mods it has, being worth potentially hundreds of Divine OrbDivine OrbStack Size: 20Randomises the values of the random modifiers on an itemRight click this item then left click a magic, rare or unique item to apply it.s with the right combination of strong mods.

Entry

Visualisation of the Maddening Object

Players must use the Maddening Object fragments in their map device to fight Uber Elder (Elder and Shaper). These fragments can be obtained by defeating The Shaper and The Elder, and can also be traded amongst players.

  • Fragment of KnowledgeFragment of KnowledgeStack Size: 10Understanding leads to mastery.Can be used in a personal Map Device. - obtained by defeating The Shaper
  • Fragment of ShapeFragment of ShapeStack Size: 10Beauty is in the eye of the creator.Can be used in a personal Map Device. - obtained by defeating The Shaper
  • Fragment of TerrorFragment of TerrorStack Size: 10Fear drives survival.Can be used in a personal Map Device. - obtained by defeating The Elder
  • Fragment of EmptinessFragment of EmptinessStack Size: 10What is not cannot cause harm.Can be used in a personal Map Device. - obtained by defeating The Elder

The arena is the same as the Absence of Value and Meaning, but the character first enters The Shaper's Realm, and then takes a portal to the final arena. The arena and staging areas are in the same instance.

Recommendations

The Uber Elder is considered to be one of the most difficult boss encounters in Path of Exile, as players are pitted against both The Elder and The Shaper simultaneously. Players must be very careful to place the Shaper's Vortex portals around the edges of the arena, failing which the entire arena will littered with permanent vortices that cause heavy damage over time. Players have to also avoid the Elder's Ring of Death and the Shaper Beam and Projectiles, all of which can be deadly if not dealt with properly.

The following is recommended:

  • Mastery of the mechanics of The Elder and The Shaper
  • At least 1 million damage per second
  • Capped elemental resistances (fire, cold and lightning resistance at 75%); additional Maximum Cold Resistance is also useful for Shaper balls and Elder icicles.
  • At least 5,000 combined Life and Energy Shield and a reliable source of recovery
  • Moderate mitigation or avoidance, including Physical damage reduction, Armour, Block, Spell Suppression
  • Movement skill to avoid Shaper's beam and both bosses' slam attacks

A method to prevent or mitigate action speed slows is helpful to avoid the Elder's Sprouting Madness debuff, but not necessary.

Skills

The Elder is assisted by the Shaper in this battle. The battle essentially pits the player against both bosses, with some differences:

  • One of the bosses will be invulnerable, alternating between the Elder then the Shaper for every 25% health lost. After the 25% health intermission phase, both bosses will be vulnerable; the Shaper can be killed, but the Elder cannot be killed or culled and instead plays a death cutscene upon reaching 0% health.
  • Volatile Anomalies and Madness Propagators will continuously spawn during the fight, alternating every 20 seconds. These will create vortex ground or eldritch decay pools on the floor which deal damage over time and last for the duration of the fight. Madness Propagators must be defeated to prevent them from creating their degens; Volatile Anomalies cannot be hit but can be walked through to detonate them in a safe location.
  • There are no special intermission phases from either boss.
  • At each 1/4 health lost from both bosses, the Elder or Shaper will spawn additional monsters.
    • The Elder will summon multiple Null Portals at 25 and 75% health. The Elder will not attack during this intermission phase.
    • The Shaper channels a monster portal like in his regular fight at 50% health. The Shaper will not attack during this intermission phase.
  • The Elder does not use his Super Siphon attack or the debuff Crystalised Fear
  • The Shaper does not use his Shadow Clone or Bullet Hell attack.

The Elder

Image Skills Details Used while invulnerable?
Default Melee Attack
  • The Elder strikes the player, dealing Physical Damage.
Yes
Ice Spears 1
  • The Elder fires multiple sets of 2 icy projectiles
  • Each projectile that hits the player deals 5006 to 7509 Cold Damage
Yes
Ice Spears 2
  • The Elder fires 4 icy projectiles at once
  • Each projectile that hits the player deals 5006 to 7509 Cold Damage
Yes
Ice Spears 3
  • The Elder charges up an attack and then fires 5+ icy projectiles
  • Each projectile that hits the player deals 6554 to 9832 Cold Damage
Yes
Siphon
  • The Elder dives into the ground and reappears, siphoning energy out of the player within a 180 degree cone around himself
  • Players must stay out of the range of the siphon to escape the attack
  • If players are within the siphoning attack area:
No
Tentacle Slam
  • The Elder spawns several tentacles around the player that slam the ground to deal Area of effect Physical damage
  • This attack also leaves visual ground effect for a short time
  • Each tentacle that hits the player deals 130% of Damage
No
Expanding Nova /
Ring of Death
  • The Elder casts a ring around him, creating a field that gradually grows larger over time
  • After several seconds, it explodes dealing massive physical damage, enough to kill most builds
  • Players must stay within the inner ring until the attack ends in order to survive
  • If players are outside the ring, it deals 5420 to 6625 Physical Damage when it explodes
Yes
Rising Slam
  • The Elder spins around, launching multiple cold damage projectiles that impact in a ring around him, then teleports away.
  • He will then teleport to your location and do a slam that deals heavy cold damage.
No

The Shaper

Image Skills Details Used while invulnerable?
Default Attack
  • The Shaper lashes out at the player, dealing Physical damage
  • He only uses it while in melee range.
  • If the player is hit, it deals:
    • Deals 100% of Damage
    • 33% more Attack Speed
Yes
Shaper Beam
  • The Shaper unleashes an extremely powerful beam that deals heavy damage over time if the player is hit by it
    • The Shaper fires the beam aiming at the player, and once fired, the beam does NOT rotate to target the player
    • The player must dash away or run away from the beam area to avoid taking damage
    • The beam can kill most builds in 1-2 seconds if they stand within the beam constantly
    • The beam lasts for 3 seconds
  • If players touch it, the beam does ALL of the following:
    • Deals 5384 Fire Damage per second
    • Deals 4405 Cold Damage per second
    • Deals 6057 Lightning Damage per second
Yes
Projectiles
  • The Shaper fires 3 golden orbs consecutively, dealing massive cold damage if it hits the player.
  • Each ball will deal:
Yes
Teleport Slam
  • The Shaper disappears into the void, and teleports to the player and slams the ground, dealing heavy damage that can one-shot most builds.
  • To avoid this attack:
    • Players must notice that the Shaper has disappeared and maintain constant movement
    • When the Shaper reappears at the player's location he will perform the Slam attack
    • If players were moving, they would have moved from their original location and avoided the attack
  • If players are anywhere within the purple circle, they will be dealt heavy damage:
    • Deals 300% of Damage
    • 50% less Attack Speed
No
Vortex
  • The Shaper fires a slow-moving grey ball that seeks the player
    • Once the ball touches the player, it will create a vortex on the ground, that deals heavy cold damage over time if players stand within it
    • Players must attract the balls to the edges of the arena to prevent the vortex from restricting the player's mobility
    • Each vortex lasts for the duration of the entire fight, thus players must be very careful to attract them to the edges of the arena
  • To escape a vortex:
    • Players must immediately blink or run from it and continue attacking from another direction
    • If the Elder or Shaper is surrounded by portals, simply wait till he relocates or till some of the portals disappear
Unknown
Monster Portal
  • The Shaper teleports to the side of the arena and opens a monster portal while he becomes immune to damage
  • The monster portal will spawn various kinds of shaped monsters, one at a time, who will exit the portal and attack the player
  • Players must simply kill the monsters

Video guide

Uber boss variant

Using five Decaying FragmentsDecaying FragmentThe Shaper's Realm is level 85
The Shaper's and The Elder's full power are unleashed in The Shaper's Realm
A void where only terror and emptiness exists;
those who attempt to struggle only hasten the assimilation
Use five of these in a personal Map Device to open Portals to The Shaper's Realm. Can only be used once.
opens a harder instance of the boss fight. Uber Elder is fought in Area Level 85 and greatly increases in difficulty. The fight with the Uber Elder will have the following changes:

  • Area has the mod Monsters take 70% less damage
  • The Shaper's ball projectile attack fires two additional projectiles, and penetrates 40% Cold Resistance instead.
  • The Shaper's slam attack is faster, has a larger area of effect, and does more damage.
  • The Shaper will use his Bullet Hell attack, but he fires less projectiles (but more than in the Uber Shaper fight).
  • The Elder will create three Rings of Death in a row.

Uber Uber Elder can also drop a double-influenced Impresence and/or Sublime VisionSublime Vision
Prismatic Jewel
Limited to: 1<Aura bonus modifier>This world is not good enough for her,
so I will make a better one. Nothing
matters but the pursuit of perfection.
Place into an allocated Jewel Socket on the Passive Skill Tree. Right click to remove from the Socket.
.

Drops

Drop rates are estimated based on crowdsourced data and may not be accurate. version 3.24.0, n=50r[3]/300u[4][5]

Uber Elder Uber Uber Elder
Guaranteed
Unique
Encounter-
specific
drops
  • Sublime VisionSublime Vision
    Prismatic Jewel
    Limited to: 1<Aura bonus modifier>This world is not good enough for her,
    so I will make a better one. Nothing
    matters but the pursuit of perfection.
    Place into an allocated Jewel Socket on the Passive Skill Tree. Right click to remove from the Socket.
    (2.5%)
  • Decaying Reliquary KeyDecaying Reliquary KeyA great Silence falls...Travel to the Decaying Reliquary by using this item in a personal Map Device. Can only be used once. (1.5%)
  • Curio of DecayCurio of Decay
    Primordial Fragment
    All that is will one day come to naught.This item will transform when correctly arranged with other items.
    (5%)
Additional
drops
  • Decayed VoidstoneDecayed VoidstoneTier 1-15 Maps found have 25% chance to become 1 tier higher
    Tier 16 Maps Dropped in Areas have 0.4% chance to become a Tier 17 Map for each Socketed Voidstone
    The Elder fed on all that gave life meaning
    until it encountered an unbreakable bond.
    Socket this into your Atlas to increase the Tier of all Maps.
    (Quest item, drops on first kill)
  • Watcher's EyeWatcher's Eye
    Prismatic Jewel
    Limited to: 1(4-6)% increased maximum Energy Shield
    (4-6)% increased maximum Life
    (4-6)% increased maximum Mana
    <Two or Three random aura modifiers>
    One by one, they stood their ground against a creature
    they had no hope of understanding, let alone defeating,
    and one by one, they became a part of it.
    Place into an allocated Jewel Socket on the Passive Skill Tree. Right click to remove from the Socket.
    (3 mod) (35%)
  • Orb of DominanceOrb of DominanceStack Size: 10Removes one Influenced Modifier from an item with at least two Influenced
    Modifiers and upgrades another Influenced Modifier
    Upgrading a modifier of the highest tier transforms the
    modifier into an Elevated Modifier
    Attempting to upgrade an Elevated Modifier rerolls its values
    Can be used on Body Armours, Boots, Gloves and Helmets
    Right click this item then left click an item with at least two Influenced Modifiers to apply it.
    (~5%)
  • The GulfThe Gulf5Thread of HopeThread of Hope
    Crimson Jewel
    Radius: VariableOnly affects Passives in (Small-Very Large) Ring
    Passives in Radius can be Allocated without being connected to your tree
    -(20-10)% to all Elemental Resistances
    Though we cannot touch; one thought, one wish, through centuries alone in darkness.Place into an allocated jewel socket on the Passive Skill Tree. Right click to remove from the Socket.

    Two-Implicit
    Corrupted
    I thought love stronger than all,
    but time and isolation broke
    that which madness could not.
    (~4%)
  • Void of the ElementsVoid of the Elements3Overpowering Opal Ring
    Item Level: 100
    Elder Item
    Though the forces of nature are mighty and intimidating, it is their absence which should be feared.
    (~4%)
  • Several Shaper-influenced and Elder-influenced items

Lore

I saw the fabric of creation in its most primordial form. I felt the templar's grip loosen and slip away. I lay there, in the emptiness between worlds, for an eternity. Then, for the first time in my life, I truly awoke.

The Uber Elder was the final boss encounter in the War for the Atlas expansion, which occupied the Shaper's Realm. However, that end-game storyline was retired and replaced by the Conquerors of the Atlas (itself was replaced by the end game of Siege of the Atlas). According to the Conquerors of the Atlas game lore, the Elder was slain by the Elderslayers led by Sirus, Awakener of Worlds, and was removed from the Atlas. Players can still fight Uber Elder using the Maddening Object map fragments, but do not need to chase the Elder and Shaper across the Atlas anymore. These map fragments can be obtained by defeating the Shaper and the Elder. This encounter is formally known as "The Elder in the Shaper's Realm".

Version history

Version Changes
3.24.2
  • Fixed a bug where The Eternity Shroud could not drop from the Uber-Uber Elder Boss Fight.
3.24.0
  • The Cosmic Wounds, Memento Mori, Thirst for Knowledge, Insatiable Appetite, Throw the Gauntlet, and The Perfect Storm Atlas Keystone Passives have been removed. Instead, we have added a new set of fragments that can be used to access the Uber Pinnacle Bosses.
    • Uber Pinnacle Bosses no longer drop additional rewards granted from their respective keystones (Uber Elder no longer has an increased chance to drop an Orb of Dominance). [Undocumented This change was not documented by any official sources. It was discovered through player testing or datamining.]
  • Rebalanced the drops and drop rates of Uber Pinnacle Bosses and introduced new exclusive Uber unique items. [Undocumented This change was not documented by any official sources. It was discovered through player testing or datamining.]
3.20.0
  • Pinnacle bosses, Map bosses, Incursion architects, Betrayal targets, Breachlords and others no longer have 33% or 66% less effect of curses on them respectively.
3.18.0
  • Added 7 new uber versions of Pinnacle Boss fights, accessible through Atlas Keystone Passives. These fights are extremely difficult, so only attempt them if you have a very powerful character.
  • The Uber Elder now also can drop Call of the VoidCall of the Void
    Sapphire Ring
    Requires Level 16+(20-30)% to Cold Resistance+(20-30)% to Cold Resistance
    All Damage with Hits can Chill
    All Damage Taken from Hits can Chill you
    Enemies Chilled by your Hits can be Shattered as though Frozen
    Enemies Chilled by your Hits lessen their Damage dealt by half of Chill Effect
    Only when the mind is empty of ambition
    can the cold truth of existence take hold.
    . [Undocumented This change was not documented by any official sources. It was discovered through player testing or datamining.]
3.17.0
3.9.0
  • The Elder and Shaper were defeated by Sirus and the Elderslayers and are no longer part of the Atlas.
  • Players no longer have to chase the Elder and the Shaper across the atlas in order to fight them.
  • The fight can now be accessed using the Maddening Object map fragment set.
3.2.0
  • Introduced the final Elder encounter. This endgame encounter is the single most difficult challenge Path of Exile currently has to offer. Good luck!
  • No longer immune to Taunt, though they may not retarget based on being taunted. The Elder in his Unstable phase can no longer be slowed below their base speed.
  • The Elder's Unstable phase is now more difficult, and can drop more Elder items if successfully completed. This is now the only way to obtain the Watcher's Eye unique jewel.

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