Talk:Ancient Orb

Ilvl

I had removed all the info regarding ilvl as it is uncertain.

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Like an Orb of ChanceOrb of ChanceStack Size: 20Upgrades a normal item to a random rarityRight click this item then left click a normal item to apply it., the result of using an Ancient Orb is not restricted by item level. Therefore, a unique with a high item level requirement (like SkyforthSkyforth
Sorcerer BootsEnergy Shield: (51-59)Requires Level 67, 123 Int+(60-120) to maximum Mana
30% increased Movement Speed
25% chance to gain a Power Charge on Critical Strike
12% increased Reservation Efficiency of Skills
You have no Life Regeneration
Stun Threshold is based on 500% of your Mana instead of LifeThe quick die young, the brilliant go mad,
and the powerful stand alone in a wasteland of their own creation.) may be obtained from any unique item of the appropriate class, regardless of the base's item level. Similarly, when attempting to obtain a unique that drops at low item levels (like Taste of HateTaste of Hate
Sapphire FlaskLasts 8.00 Seconds
Consumes 20 of 50 Charges on use
+40% to Cold Resistance
+5% to Maximum ColdResistanceRequires Level 18(10-15)% of Physical Damage from Hits taken as Cold Damage during Effect
Gain (10-15)% of Physical Damage as Extra Cold Damage during effect
30% chance to Avoid being Chilled during Effect
30% chance to Avoid being Frozen during EffectA sip will freeze your lips,
A swig will chill your heart,
A glass will still your soul.Right click to drink. Can only hold charges while in belt. Refills as you kill monsters.), no advantage is gained by using a low item level base. Unlike the Orb of Chance, the Ancient Orb is able to reforge sockets and links on the item.

However, from at least version 3.2.0 Ancient Orbs are to some degree restricted by item level or at least influenced by it. This can be useful to boost the chances to get a desired lower level unique (like HeadhunterHeadhunter
Leather BeltRequires Level 40+(25-40) to maximum Life+(40-55) to Strength
+(40-55) to Dexterity
+(50-60) to maximum Life
(20-30)% increased Damage with Hits against Rare monsters
When you Kill a Rare monster, you gain its Modifiers for 60 seconds"A man's soul rules from a cavern of bone, learns and
judges through flesh-born windows. The heart is meat.
The head is where the Man is."
- Lavianga, Advisor to Kaom or LycosidaeLycosidae
Rawhide Tower ShieldChance to Block: (29-31)%
Armour: (173-226)
Movement Speed: -3%Requires Level 11, 33 Str+(10-20) to maximum Life+(120-160) to Armour
+(30-40) to maximum Life
Your hits can't be Evaded
+(3-5)% Chance to Block
Adds 250 to 300 Cold Damage to CounterattacksA true predator does not chase; It waits.).

It should be noted that using Ancient Orb on Shaper or Elder items will remove the influence.

Moreover, new video that claim it is not restricted by ilvl, was using a very low ilvl belt, and the item had change to another item, so such forcing the item to change to another item that had ilvl lower than min level to equip, is not sufficient to say it is not restricted by ilvl unless the video shown a ilvl 2 belt can change to much rarer very high ilvl belt. Neokowloon (talk) 08:38, 28 September 2019 (UTC)

ok, someone added the ilvl of the fated version is the cap, so for belt: ilvl 48 is the cap for using ilvl 40 base (since The TacticianThe Tactician
Studded BeltRequires Level 48(20-30)% increased Stun Duration on Enemies+(40-50) to Strength
+(40-50) to Intelligence
(25-40)% increased Global Physical Damage
50% increased Flask Charges gained
+(20-25)% to all Elemental Resistances while you have at least 200 Strength
(50-60)% increased Critical Strike Chance while you have at least 200 IntelligenceFew men command an army better than the Great Meginord of the North requires ilvl 48). Then it may explain the anomaly . Neokowloon (talk) 10:09, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Add another drama to it by flipping ilvl 36 Trolltimber SpireTrolltimber Spire
Cedar Tower ShieldChance to Block: 25%
Armour: (216-282)
Movement Speed: -3%Requires Level 17, 47 Str+(20-30) to maximum Life(130-150)% increased Armour
+(40-60) to maximum Life
You and your Totems Regenerate 0.5% of Life per second for each Summoned Totem
15% increased Area of Effect for Skills used by Totems
0.5% of Damage dealt by your Totems is Leeched to you as LifeThe problem with working fresh trolltimber:
by the time you've carved out one end,
the other has sprouted fresh roots! and then Titucius' SpanTitucius' Span
Reinforced Tower ShieldChance to Block: 23%
Armour: (379-468)
Movement Speed: -3%Requires Level 30, 76 Str+(10-20) to maximum Life(60-80)% increased Armour
+(30-50) to maximum Life
-(80-50) Physical Damage taken from Projectile Attacks
200% increased Armour against Projectiles
+25% chance to Block Projectile Attack DamageA mighty bulwark, curved and strong
A dauntless wall, against the throng
All lance and arrow, knocked aside
For rout of foe, for turn of tide. and then LycosidaeLycosidae
Rawhide Tower ShieldChance to Block: (29-31)%
Armour: (173-226)
Movement Speed: -3%Requires Level 11, 33 Str+(10-20) to maximum Life+(120-160) to Armour
+(30-40) to maximum Life
Your hits can't be Evaded
+(3-5)% Chance to Block
Adds 250 to 300 Cold Damage to CounterattacksA true predator does not chase; It waits.. Haven't spam the rest of my orbs but yeah the urban legend of blocking high drop level item may be right. (Given Redblade BannerRedblade Banner
Painted Tower ShieldChance to Block: 30%
Armour: (338-432)
Movement Speed: -3%Requires Level 35, 87 Str+(20-30) to maximum Life(80-100)% increased Armour
+(50-60) to maximum Life
20% increased Taunt Duration
+5% Chance to Block
50% increased Warcry Cooldown Recovery Rate
Warcries have infinite PowerBlood shed is blood shared. is Redblade Warbands specific) Neokowloon (talk) 09:43, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Can this page be updated to properly display that ancient orbs dont care about ilevel? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bipedsnowman (talk • contribs) 01:40, 21 February 2021‎ (UTC)

It still a speculation by the player and never confirmed by GGG Neokowloon (talk) 23:46, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

I took a swing at cleaning up the grammar and language of that section, a bit, at least. Certainly needs more drafts though. It's very confused as an English text. --Maschnitz (talk) 00:11, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

One more thread adding to the drama of ilvl affect the chance or not:

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/lip73l/ancient_orbs_and_item_level_1200_ancient_orbs_vs/ (3.13)

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/n8a97t/psa_the_item_level_of_headhunter_may_have_been/ (3.14)

Neokowloon (talk) 20:50, 9 May 2021 (UTC)