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Gem quality section
On most skill and support gem pages, there is a section header that reads "Gem Quality" and beneath it is a brief description of what bonuses quality adds to the gem. Given that Template:Gem Infobox displays a field for this, is there any reason to also have the page section that gives the exact same information? Not only is it redundant, but people often update one and not the other which leads to a discrepancy in the information presented on the same page. Can we just get rid of the page section and leave in the infobox section? —Vini (t|c) 23:04, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
New zone templating
I would like to implement new templating for zone info. You can see an example here: Template:Zone/testcases. Comments? Suggestions? —Vini (t|c) 12:36, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
- Wow, looks very smooth. I like it. Maybe adding the adjacent areas could be useful information aswell? Like on the version history page, a link to the previous area(s) and to the next. Climmels (talk) 12:51, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
- Not all areas have a clear prev and next - would a list of connected areas work? I'm thinking along the lines of wikipedia band infoboxes with lists of associated acts. I don't think anywhere is connected to more than 4 areas (gardens, marketplace, crossroads are all 4s). --Qetuth-(talk) 13:07, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
- Might I suggest incorporating the zone banners? Here is the Ship Graveyard banner. Alos, I'm not sure which would be preferable but here is the other waypoint icon, amongst the other minimap icons, that can be used. - FaceLicker (talk) 13:17, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
- Looks great, definitely an improvement over the current zone template. I do like the banner Facelicker has linked, though it may be a little too wide at it's current size. Iamacyborg (talk) 13:33, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
Korean Language Pages
Hey, I've been contacted by Noala Entertainment who want to start translating wiki pages into Korean, don't be surprised if you start seeing these pages start to crop up on the wiki. Iamacyborg (talk) 12:08, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
Map boss videos
Magier556 has previously been putting links to his map boss videos on the corresponding map pages. As was discussed, we reached a consensus that this was okay to do since it provides supplementary content to the wiki, even if the videos are being monetized. Given the choice between linking to monetized videos that have useful commentary and not linking to anything, I am in favor of the first option. However, if other people want to link to videos that are not monetized and provide commentary that is as useful or more useful, I think we should showcase those instead. —Vini (t|c) 21:42, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
- I agree with both your points. I also still think we need basic video demonstration of all the skills as they're more useful than static screenshots or gifs. Iamacyborg (talk) 23:01, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
Videos
I've just added a video by ZiggyD to the Flask page. What does everyone think? Is this something we want to be doing, is it useful to the community? Iamacyborg (talk) 20:29, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- I think this is something we should include videos that are useful and relevant to the page, but not if they simply repeat the content of the wiki page. The flask one is a good example in that he talks about the reasons and tactics behind flasks, while the page contains factual information about them.CosmicChopsticks (talk) 20:55, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- Yep, I totally agree with you. There's definitely some information which is more easy to show via video, for example map and game boss fights are easier to show via video, whereas some subject are more easily explained via the wiki itself. For example, a video showing what Vendor Recipes are and how they work in PoE would be useful, whereas a video showing off every single vendor recipe would not. Iamacyborg (talk) 21:11, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- That reminds me, I had assumed that the boss videos on the map pages aren't embedded due to it not being possible in Gamepedia, but the flask video shows that this isn't the case. Should those be embedded instead of linked to Youtube? CosmicChopsticks (talk) 21:29, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- It's definitely possible, check the syntax used on the flask page, and here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EmbedVideo I think we need to take a look at the videos before embedding them, I know the video creator has been adding those there himself and we need to check they're of sufficiently high quality to embed. Iamacyborg (talk) 21:40, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- I'm fine with embedding the flask guide video on the Flask page. It's a well-made video and contains tips that aren't included directly on the page. Can we limit the width of embedded videos to 300px though? Any larger and it starts encroaching far into the content area on smaller resolutions. —Vini (t|c) 22:03, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- Yep, I'm happy for them to be that size. Iamacyborg (talk) 22:36, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
Skill screenshots
As a new project I'm making sure all of the skills have good screenshots. Right now the following have none: Storm Call, Enduring Cry, Devouring Totem, Glacial Hammer, Ground Slam, Smoke Mine, Animate Weapon. Also I think some could use improvement: Bear Trap (higher resolution to see used trap), Elemental Hit (better view of attack+ele effect), Puncture (show attack, show moving monster with blood trail?), Viper Strike (show poison charges, clearer attack), Arc (clearly show chaining), Conductivity (zoom out), Firestorm (zoom out), Ice Spear (maybe show both forms), Raise Spectre (better quality, zoom out)
We could also do screenshots for support gems: Ranged Attack Totem, Spell Totem, Chain, Culling Strike, Fork, GMP, LMP, Pierce, Multiple Traps. Or whatever. If anybody wants to help I'd appreciate it. Magnanimous2 (talk) 10:30, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
- Over time I've been working on uploading skill screenshots. Believe it or not, it's requires a lot of effort to get nice looking screenshots. I did my best with Bear Trap, but it's still somewhat difficult to see since the skill's actual graphics don't stand out a lot. You also said that it should be higher resolution; well I'm running 1920x1080. Do you have some crazy high resolution? In any case, I'd certainly appreciate the help in getting a nice looking screenshot for each skill. —Vini (t|c) 11:09, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
- Resolution was the wrong word, yeah. Bear trap was definitely the hardest to get a good shot of so far, but I eventually got two good ones. The trick was finding enemies that don't touch the ground: Media:Bear_Trap_skill_screenshot_2.jpg (and getting lucky with timing but the quality was a little off). Also I tried to upload a new version of the existing file, but it isn't working for some reason. Magnanimous2 (talk) 07:33, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
TODO Tag/Page or Similar Expansion to Stubs
Has there been any thought or talk about adding a TODO page or Addition to Stubs.
Stubs are good at what they are for, to indicate missing information. What they are not good for is telling what information is missing from a page and they are not good for the concept of an easy to read list of TODO's with links to the page in addition to what the page is missing for incomplete pages/tables, for new pages, or new features that need volunteers to get it done. Example: A lot of gem pages are missing general information or additional info and there is no tag or page to show that they are missing that information besides the possibility of adding the stub tag which doesn't tell what is missing.
I understand that the community portal has a Project section, which is good for general TODO's on a bigger level. But I feel there should be a link under Projects that links to a TODO page. The TODO page would be where as someone finds something missing from a page but doesn't have the ability, time, knowledge, items, or etc to test and then add the missing data could just add it to the TODO Page under a fitting category.
How I imagine the best way to implement it based on a scenario of its usage:
| Scenario (It got long and is still missing some ideas or descriptions.) |
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| Your browsing the wiki and you come across a gem page missing the information for level 15. Your crunched for time and don't have time to log in and check and/or you don't have the gem and would take a while to level the gem up.
At this point there are two things that could happen. 1. The complicated way that I have no idea if it's even possible. You go into edit on the gem page and add a tag at the bottom or top with some call that would indicate the base tag = TODO, the subsection tag = Gem, the TODO info text = Gem Level 15 missing all relevant Data. Something (a Parser, template, or something) would be able to take that information and dump it into a TODO Page under the subsection tag with a link to the page and a discription of what the TODO is. The TODO line added would probably look like:
The Subsection Tag would likely only have 5 possibilities: Gems, Items, Quests, Mechanics. Though it could be that it is just an addition to the TODO description. I'm also not certain how it would look or have to look do to how it'd have to be implemented 2. You see something is missing. Quickly you go to the left of the wiki page click Community Portal page and click a link under the Projects section to the TODO page. You scroll to the gem section and then click edit and add a entry similar to:
The second one is much easier to implement and is actually possible to my knowledge. Possible sections of the TODO page are Gems, Items, Quests, Mechanics. Each patch could also have its own section added with entries similar to:
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If this exists or is a bad idea I'd like if someone told me so. As if it does a link needs to exist on the main page and on the community portal page. I ask this because it is hard to find things that need to be done that you would have the means to do outside of the maintenance category page. It also adds the possibility that for a big update or more complicated one someone could claim it and state that they are working on a particular TODO entry or part of that entry. Ebonmourn (talk) 05:55, 30 November 2013 (UTC)