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Ancient OrbStack Size: 20Reforges a unique item as another of the same item classRight click this item then left click a unique item to apply it.
Shift click to unstack.
Ancient Orb inventory icon.png
Acquisition
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DROP RESTRICTED
Vendor Offer
1x Scroll Fragment
Metadata
Item class: Stackable Currency
Metadata ID: Metadata/Items/Currency/CurrencyRerollUnique

Ancient Orb is a currency item that can be used to reforge a unique item as another of the same item class in the broader sense of the term, such as "flask" instead of life/mana/hybrid/utility flask.[1] This will also change the sockets (if any) on the item.

Item acquisition
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Ancient Orb are acquired from combining shards. The orb itself is not league-specific, but the shard is an exclusive drop from Harbinger. Simply a drop-restricted item, Ancient Orb did not drop normally.

There are additional ways to acquire drop-restricted currencies including the Ancient Orb. For example, Harbinger chest in Heist and Grand Heist.

Spending

Reforging a unique item means the base item type can change when the orb is applied. Ancient Orbs do not change the inventory size of an item, so 2x4-sized "tower shields" for example stay within that group.[2] Unique cluster jewel are in the same group in other 1x1 jewel as well.[3]

Notably, unique items specific to past temporary leagues, such as Module Error: Item link: No results found for search parameter "Headhunter". can be obtained with an Ancient Orb only while standing in a map to which the appropriate league's mod has been added with Zana's Map Device.[confirmation needed because of 3.14 change]

It is worth noting that using Ancient Orb will remove any influences, as well as remove enchantments from the item. Links and Sockets are re-rolled as well.

Mechanic restrictions

Ancient orb cannot roll the following type of items:


Ancient orb is also restricted by the following in order:

  1. Base size of the item
  2. ilvl of the item[speculation?]
  3. Zone you orb the item (e.g. Map Device - Nemesis for chance at getting a Headhunter)

Item level differences, compared to Orb of Chance

Orb of ChanceOrb of ChanceStack Size: 20Upgrades a normal item to a random rarityRight click this item then left click a normal item to apply it.
Shift click to unstack.
, the other currency item that can generate unique items, ignores the drop level of the targeted unique item. For Orb of ChanceOrb of ChanceStack Size: 20Upgrades a normal item to a random rarityRight click this item then left click a normal item to apply it.
Shift click to unstack.
, the item level of the base does not matter,[4] as long as the item level of the base is greater than the required level to equip that base.[5] Most unique items have a drop level that is equal to the required level to equip that unique, but some unique items have a higher drop level than needed to equip them, such as Module Error: Item link: No results found for search parameter "Skyforth"..

GGG has not officially clarified whether there is a similar item level restriction for Ancient Orbs. In practice, though, Ancient Orbs apparently are allowed to reroll low item level unique items to into higher drop level items. It is rumoured that this feature of Ancient Orbs can be used to eliminate undesired uniques in order to have a slightly higher chance to roll Module Error: Item link: No results found for search parameter "Headhunter"..

For example, using ilvl 40-43 unique belts, Ancient Orbs can still roll drop level 48-ish unique belts, but not higher. Players have speculated that this ancient orb feature could be used on certain item classes which have fated unique. In this case, the Ancient Orb would function differently than an Orb of Chance:

E.G. The lowest ilvl 2x4 bow is a Module Error: Item link: No results found for search parameter "Storm Cloud". (ilvl 9), which has a fated versionModule Error: Item link: No results found for search parameter "The Tempest". (ilvl 32) If you were to use Ancient Orb on any 2x4 ilvl 1 bow, it can roll up to an ilvl 32 bow, but never anything beyond.[6]

This is the result of experimentation by players. There is no official explanation for the actual mechanic.

Examples

A unique item that have a low ilvl, can be flipped to item that have higher required level to equip or on a base that have a higher drop level.

For example, an ilvl 2 Module Error: Item link: No results found for search parameter "Prismweave". can be flipped to Module Error: Item link: No results found for search parameter "Belt of the Deceiver". (a unique Module Error: Item link: No results found for search parameter "Heavy Belt"., which the base requires lvl 8 to drop)[7]

Another example, an ilvl 1 Module Error: Item link: No results found for search parameter "Storm Cloud". can be flipped to Module Error: Item link: No results found for search parameter "Death's Harp". (on a bow base that requires lvl 32 to drop) by using Ancient Orb (skipping lower required level 2x4 sized bows Module Error: Item link: No results found for search parameter "Roth's Reach". (lvl 18) and Module Error: Item link: No results found for search parameter "Doomfletch". (lvl 28) ).[8]

Yet another example, by using ilvl 41-43 unique belts, streamer mbXtreme still able to roll Module Error: Item link: No results found for search parameter "Soul Tether". (base drop level 16; unique requires character level 48 to equip) as 2 of his 111 outcome.[9] His another attempt, using ilvl 40-42 unique belts, yielded a similar result: ilvl cannot block Module Error: Item link: No results found for search parameter "Soul Tether".. Despite out of his 1337 Ancient Orbs, no other unique belts (such as Module Error: Item link: No results found for search parameter "Immortal Flesh". or Module Error: Item link: No results found for search parameter "Gluttony"., at that time requires high level to equip) that have a higher required character level than Soul Tether, have been rolled.[10]

Version history

Version Changes
3.14.0
  • Can now only be dropped from Foreboding IncubatorsForeboding IncubatorAdds incubated valuable Currency Shards or a Harbinger item to an equippable item
    Item drops after killing # monsters
    valuable Currency Shards or Harbinger ItemRight click this item then left click an item to apply it. The Incubated item drops after killing a specific number of monsters.
    of level 68 or higher.
3.0.0
  • Introduced to the game.

References

  1. (August 7, 2017). "Bug report: Ancient orb or wiki are wrong". Official Path of Exile Forums. Retrieved August 7, 2017.
  2. Slipperyjim8 (August 24, 2017). "Using 100 Ancient Orbs: Shields". YouTube. Retrieved August 29, 2017.
  3. mbluew (March 20, 2020). "PSA: Don't ancient orb your unique cluster jewels.". Path of Exile subreddit. Retrieved October 12, 2020.
  4. Version 1.0.0g Patch note: The Orb of ChanceOrb of ChanceStack Size: 20Upgrades a normal item to a random rarityRight click this item then left click a normal item to apply it.
    Shift click to unstack.
    can now generate Uniques that are higher than the itemlevel of the base type you're trying to roll.
  5. Rhys (July 11, 2013). "Re: ilvl requirement on soul taker?". Official Path of Exile Forums. Retrieved July 11, 2013.
  6. iamuberfriendly (October 17, 2020). "ilvl 1 bow vs ancient orb (mechanics explanation in description)". YouTube. Retrieved Ocrober 12, 2020.
  7. nikidino8 (September 16, 2019). "Ancient Orb in Blight League". Youtube. [dead link]
  8. neohongkong (February 12, 2020). "Path of Exile 3.9.2e Ancient Orb does ignore ilvl". YouTube. Retrieved February 12, 2020.
  9. mbXtreme (November 8, 2018). "[PATH OF EXILE] – 111 ANCIENT ORBS VS UNIQUE BELTS – HEADHUNTER GAMBLE". YouTube. Retrieved Ocrober 12, 2020.
  10. mbXtreme (June 8, 2019). "[PATH OF EXILE] – 1337 ANCIENT ORBS VS UNIQUE BELTS – LEGION SACRIFICE!". YouTube. Retrieved Ocrober 12, 2020.

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